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[00:00:03] Niklas Anzinger: I think is like the secret sauce in Prospera that we want to develop a system that is not entirely different. So we are still operating under the same standards. We're still using common law, we still use regulation, right. And like third party enforcement of these regulations if something goes wrong. But we just have a different mechanisms, how we sort out the good regulations from the bad in ways which doesn't happen in the current system.

[00:00:35] Jarrad Hope: Hi, I'm Jared Hope, co-founder of logos, a fully decentralized, privacy preserving and politically neutral tech stack. Today we're talking with Niklas Anzinger, founder and CEO of Vitalia City and founder of Infinita VC. Thanks for for joining me, Niklas.

[00:00:51] Niklas Anzinger: Fantastic to be here, Jarrad.

[00:00:53] Jarrad Hope: So I wanted to chat with you because, I mean, you've been coming up on the network state scene and making some some waves on that front. But I had the pleasure of of visiting Vitalia City in Prospera recently. I'm still on the island of Roatan as we're recording this.

[00:01:09] Niklas Anzinger: Oh, you are right now.

[00:01:12] Jarrad Hope: Oh, cool. Well, yeah, if you're around, I'd love to catch up. And face

[00:01:16] Jarrad Hope: To face but, yeah, I was just super impressed with what you're doing there, and so I wanted to know a bit more and get other people to, you know, spread the word, so to speak.

[00:01:26] Niklas Anzinger: What was the impression. What can you see physically or what surprised you.

[00:01:30] Jarrad Hope: Well, I mean, the first thing that surprised me, actually, was the entrance into into pristine Bay and Prospera. Right. Like the security, my believers got a new a new detail there, and there are a lot more thorough. So so that was super. That was the most surprising thing. Initial impression. But then once you come up the up the, the hill, you see this Bitcoin center which is, you know, inspiring to see. And then you come over and you see this wonderful valley of like green lush gardens and beautiful buildings. So.

[00:02:07] Niklas Anzinger: Utopian vibe, right?

[00:02:08] Jarrad Hope: Right, right. Absolutely. And then just getting to, you know going to the Vitalia Dome and, you know, seeing all these amazing talks and, you know, the, you know, visiting the beta building and Duna it was incredible to see that. I think you're taking how much occupancy of the Duna building will be for for Talia.

[00:02:28] Niklas Anzinger: So about 4,050% maybe.

[00:02:31] Jarrad Hope: Yeah, right. So

[00:02:32] Jarrad Hope: Yeah, really exciting times. So I'd like to, but before we get into like what Vitalia is biotechnology

[00:02:39] Jarrad Hope: Infinita, I kind of want to know a little bit more about, you know, your life story and like, you know, how

[00:02:44] Jarrad Hope: You get to this point where you're on an island in the middle of the Caribbean?

[00:02:48] Niklas Anzinger: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I'm originally from Germany. So I lived and grew up in a town close to Munich, the city close to Munich called Freising, which is the next city to the airport. And for a long part of my life up until about two, two and a half years ago, I felt that kind of my intellectual interests and sort of my entrepreneurial endeavors were a bit disconnected, not fully, but I was always into the world of ideas. I spent the first half of my career in economics, philosophy, international relations. I was in Washington DC, think tanks and management consulting. So I found all that like very inspiring and I learned a lot from it. And I had really good professors and a really good education in like analytical philosophy and economics is definitely something that's now stuck with me. But I also felt I always felt it was a bit disconnected. So what do I do with it? Right. So there's it doesn't impact anyone whether or not I'm right on these ideas.

[00:03:48] Niklas Anzinger: Right. So you know, people for decades wrote about like free banking and stuff like that, but nobody cares, right? Because nobody's going to listen to like, let's reform the fed or something like that. Like, this is not how things work until the Bitcoin white paper came around. Right.

[00:04:06] Niklas Anzinger: So. So I was attracted to technology and entrepreneurship, right? Wasn't then the Bitcoin white paper, but

[00:04:12] Niklas Anzinger: I was already quite attracted to that

Jarrad Hope talks to Niklas Anzinger, Founder & CEO of Vitalia City and Founder & General Partner at Infinita VC, about building a decentralised city for crypto-driven biotech and the regulatory challenges these types of communities face. RESOURCES:Niklas Anzinger X - https://x.com/NiklasAnzingerStranded Technologies - https://www.strandedtechnologies.com/ 

<p>Logos Podcast is a bi-weekly interview show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. We invite the world's foremost experts and radical thinkers to discuss how to emancipate from repressive systems through new social, political, and economic institutions.</p><section class="footnotes-container">&nbsp;</section>

Logos Podcast is a bi-weekly interview show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. We invite the world's foremost experts and radical thinkers to discuss how to emancipate from repressive systems through new social, political, and economic institutions.

Jarrad Hope

Logos Podcast

<p>Jarrad Hope talks to Niklas Anzinger, Founder &amp; CEO of <a href="https://vitalia.city/">Vitalia City</a> and Founder &amp; General Partner at <a href="https://infinitavc.com/">Infinita VC</a>, about building a decentralised city for crypto-driven biotech and the regulatory challenges these types of communities face.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>RESOURCES:</p><p>Niklas Anzinger X - <a href="https://x.com/NiklasAnzinger">https://x.com/NiklasAnzinger</a></p><p>Stranded Technologies - <a href="https://www.strandedtechnologies.com/">https://www.strandedtechnologies.com/</a></p><p>&nbsp;</p><section class="footnotes-container">&nbsp;</section>